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This was written to debunk the farce that Europeans calling themselves Jews have any evidence connecting them to the natives of Asia/Africa... the bible lands, but it also applies to all who believe they can trace their ancestors through DNA or written family trees.
Anthropology / Family Trees
Where does the information come from that people use to create their family trees?
Ellis Island in Upper New York Bay about 1
mile southwest of Manhattan. Named after Samuel Ellis, who owned it.
In 1808 the state of New York sold the island to the federal government, and
it was used as a fort and powder magazine. It served as
the nation's major immigration station from 1892 to 1924. An
estimated 17 million immigrants passed through Ellis Island.
Joseph Smith ( Mormon founder) began his sect in 1827, when the whole vision
thing took place. The Mormons did not create their family tree data bases in
the life time of Smith. Almost the complete family tree data base of the
Mormons come from records of Ellis Island (and of course that couldn't happen
until there was an Ellis Island)
(History channel) It took thousands of volunteers many years to complete the
records now stored in an under ground cave. The Mormons
could not have created their data base from any records before 1982.
When Europeans applied for immigration to the US, the authorities would write
down what ever the potential immigrant told them. People in Europe or America
were not tagged like dogs, like they are today. You could make up anything you
wanted and the governments were not going to start an investigation to prove
it.
#1 The application information for a passport was what
ever the applicant told the authorities. None of it was verified.
#2 The form on which the information was stated, was
written by the immigration authorities of those European countries.
#3 What ever the immigrant told in Europe would be
repeated when they got to Ellis Island.
#4 When boarding the ships, the crew would inspect
passports, take money / tickets and create a manifest. The manifest was
a list of names of what ever the potential immigrant said it was.
Not one bit of info on passport applications or shipping was ever investigated
by anyone. Forgery would have been a snap.
The total basis of information on passports and entry to
the US was based on what ever the applicant said. No facts, nothing but the
word of the immigrants.
Many of the records of Ellis Island Immigrants still exist. These are written
in the hand of the US immigrant authorities. There were standard question
forms. When Immigrants entered they would be asked
questions ( most could not speak English, let alone write it) and the
replies were written down on the form by the US immigrant authorities.
Most of these forms were hand written by the US immigration authorities.
When the Mormons created their family tree data base, they created them from
hand written ship manifest or Ellis Island worker's hand written forms.
They did not have hand written documents of the actual immigrants, they did
not have any physical evidence. EVERY RECORD IN THE
MORMON FAMILY TREE DATA BASE IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE HEARSAY OF THE
IMMIGRANTS.
Because you can go to the internet and look it up,
remember you are looking at the hearsay of people trying to get into the US.
All the information from these data bases began around 1900 AD. What ever data
base you look at might not have any reference to Mormons, but if it is not a
copy of Mormon info, it comes from the same source.
MORMON BS
{ Mormons are another sect who link themselves to the "lost tribes of
Israel". Wanna be a descendant of the Israelites, just become a Mormon }
Following the conquest of the Assyrians in 721 BC, the 10 tribes were
gradually assimilated by other peoples and thus disappeared from history.
Nevertheless, a belief persisted that one day the Ten Lost Tribes would be
found.
Around 1604-57 the legend of the lost tribes was used in pleading successfully
for admission of Jews into England.
The interest of Mormons in genealogy is based on proving they are the
"real Israelite descendants". All your family tree research is based
on the Mormon's work.
When you look at a family tree data base thinking you are tracking your
ancestors here is what you are doing.
#1 Taking the work of those out to prove they are descendants of the
Israelites (Anglo Saxon Europeans who would not allow blacks in their church
for a century)
#2 You are taking the hand written forms of US immigrant officials who only
wrote down what they were told.
#3 You are taking the manifest names written down by a ship's crew.
#4 You are taking the forms filled out by European immigrant processors.
#5 You are not taking down any documents or evidence of any of these
assertions.
#6 Your whole house is built on the hearsay info of Europeans trying to get
into the US.
#7 None of these immigrants were alive from 1800 AD to 300 BC.
#8 None of these immigrants have documents of their ancestors for the previous
1000 years.
#9 None of these immigrants could possibly know who their ancestors were 1000
years before they lived.
The US census of 1890 was 63,039,756. After that 17,000,000 immigrants passed
through Ellis Island. Now where are the family tree records for the previous
63 million people?
No matter what fragments of records remain, there are no hand written records
by people for the previous 1500 years.
If the earth is still spinning in the year 3000 AD another Lemmings will say I
am a Jew, because my mother was a Jew and her mother was a Jew. I can track
the ancestors on my mother's side almost 1000 years. Here is a picture of my
great grandma from an ancient newspaper clipping.
This may be the picture of future boy's grandma, but because his
grandma was a Jew that would not make him a Jew. You see the picture of
this Jewish girl is with her twin sister who is a Catholic. The only reason
why this future grandma was a Jew will be because she was adopted by a Jew.
Actually she and her twin sister are Mexicans split at birth and united years
later by shear accident.
Because future boy finds out great, great grandma was a Jew, he will become
full of himself and brag he is a descendant of the Israelites.
People who "track their ancestors" through type written records or
records created by clerks have no idea how silly they are.
When they go to the public records they start... It says here this person is a
relative of .... and they are a relative of ... This is exactly how they graph
their family tree chart.
The proper line of questions are
* Who wrote this down.
* Did the actual author of the words I read, even know
any of my relatives.
* Did the author of this text have any evidence or did
they just write what they were told.
* The actual person who gave them the hearsay
information to write, did they have any physical evidence of their assertions
or did they just recite what grandma told them.
* Does any actual physical hand written records exist
that can be tested and verified or is the whole basis, nothing other than the
hearsay of people who did not exist 200 years ago, let alone 2000 years ago?
The type writer began to be used around 1857. Only news papers, publishers and
the like owned type writers. Only governments, religious organizations and
publishers had printing presses.
All records kept by individuals were hand written records. NO TYPE WRITTEN
RECORD, NO COMPUTER DATA BASES HAS ANY FACTS ABOUT YOUR ANCESTORS. THEY ONLY
CONTAIN HEARSAY AT BEST.
To prove your connection to the Israelites, you will have to find the hand
written documents of every generation of your ancestors for the last 2,300
years.
Of course anyone can concoct any farce they want. The documents you provide
must be age dated and tested for fraud. If you are not a liar, there is no way
to know if any of your ancestors were and with out verification, you do not
know they were your ancestors.
IF you can track your ancestors, produce the tested hand written documents
from today back to 300 BC.
The records existing in Europe are no different. If they were filled out by
government workers, they only wrote what they were told. No typed or printed
documents of Europe produce anything but hearsay of those they knew nothing
about.
If you want to start in Europe, fine, produce your hand
written documents for every generation from now to 300 BC.
Computer data bases, type written documents by those who
have NO information about your ancestors and absolutely no documents or facts,
are good to wipe with ( if on soft paper).
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So you hear people actually claim they have the actual hand written family tree records written by their ancestors from 300 years ago?
In order for any one who planned to provide a written record of their family birth records, what would it take?
Remember in the middle ages less than 2% of the population could read or write. Those who were educated were usually limited to religious/political leaders.
What would it take for a 300 year old ancestor to provide a family tree record for future generations?
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In the past there was no women's lib, there were no birth control records, families were very large and have only shrunk after the 1900s.
For this example let's say:
a) The average family included 5 children
Girls got married and produced their families very young, so
b) Girls were born and produced their own families at the average of 30 years old.
300 / 30 = 10 generations
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How many family trees/birth records would an ancestor have to prepare for his descendants 300 years later?
If he had 5 children, then he would have to write 5 family tree records for each child.
Instead of going
Generation 1 5
Generation 2 25
Generation 3 125
Generation 4 625
Generation 5 3125
Generation 6 15625
Generation 7 78125
Generation 8 390625
Generation 9 1953125
Generation 10 9,765,625
In order for all of his great grand children to have a copy there would have to be 9,765,625 hand written copies from this ancestor or there would be only one copy and there would be 1/9,765,625 th a chance that any one would have that single copy.
If you take this back 1000 years, the odds are in the billions.
Then if you happen to be the one person that had the single 300 year old copy, it would not tie you to that ancestor unless you had the single copy of every ancestor that followed.
Do you really know any one with the absurd assertion that they have the actual written document from 2000 years ago that ties them to an ancestor?
The only thing that exists today are copies made centuries after the fact. Copies of what? How can you have a copy of any thing unless you first have that thing to copy from?
The only thing people have that ties them to any ancient ancestor is a myth (if it is a written source) or DNA, if it is physical evidence.
We have all had hundreds of thousands of ancestors who came from thousands of different places and thousands of different families. Your DNA evidence can connect you to one segment of people in one area, but your ancestors come from a many places that particular DNA trait does not include.
It is like the Negro woman on 60 Minutes in the program that used DNA to see what place their ancestors existed in.
After they found a match in one African country, then they found matches in a dozen more countries hundreds of miles apart.
Then they tried to match her by family tree records and found a white rancher with the same name. This white guy also had a DNA marker that matched her.
No one is a descendant of any one particular ancestor, but we are all a composite of every ancestor we ever had.
DNA only identifies one subset of ancestors in one area. It does NOT identify all of your ancestors.
People just like to look at the part that fits their fancy and ignore the rest... kind of like the European Jews who keep silent about all of their family connection to the rest of the Germans in the Nazi party.
Some one claims to have the actual, hand written records of a 2000 year old ancestor, tell them to produce it. They only have records from hearsay, written generations later. You can not have a copy of any thing when you do not have that thing to copy !
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FAMILY TREE DATA BASES
When proving they have NO evidence of any connection with the Israelites, the Euro cult replies: "God knows who the descendants of the Israelites are"?
Yeah but it is not God making the claims, it is a pot luck of Anglo Saxon Europeans, claiming they are descendants of the native people of the middle east.
Most people who claim they know who their ancestors were, get that info from data bases on the internet.
Family Data Bases
The largest data bases on family trees come from the Mormons, Elise Island, tax collections and census bureaus. None of these existed 300 years ago. There are more people calling themselves "Jews" living in America than in the middle east and these "Jews" did not come from the middle east, almost all of them came from Europe.
FAKE NAMES / ID
Before boarding a ship in Europe they had to get passports. People in
Europe did not have social security cards, they did not have picture
driver's license, they were not finger printed.
Anyone who had the money could get papers being anyone
they wanted, under any family name to be to get into the nation.
CARGO NOT FAMILY HISTORY
People who boarded were listed like cargo. The Captains were given a manifest list and those people were the cargo they were paid to deliver. Of course anyone who had a past that would keep them out of the country, came in under false names.
FAKING YOUR IDENTITY
I saw one documentary of the period when Chinese were kept out of
America, some of them traveled to Spain and tried to fake being Spanish.
People who had money, influence or were in some business got the red carpet.
The government wanted to bring in cash makers. If you could make them think
you had clout, it would be easy sailing through Elise Island.
ORPHANS
Look at the hundreds of thousands orphans that now exist in Russia in
modern times and think back through history of the orphan population. In the
middle ages 1/3 of the European was wiped out by the plague, now what
do you think happened to the surviving orphans?
No different in the US in the 1800's and early 1900's we had thousands of
orphans and our government created a program to send orphan or unwanted
children from the cities in the east to farms and little towns through out
the mid west. Of course all orphan children in Europe
that existed in the previous 1900 years and those in America would have
taken on the family names of those who adopted them.
So, tell me how you gonna look back through history
and know if any of your grandparents were adopted?
My grandma's mother was xxx and her mother was yyy 20 times, but her mother
was adopted?
This is the information that would not be in any data
base and so your last 20 grandmothers would not be any relation to
all those in the generations before that.
How would you possibly know if any of your ancestors
were adopted? Your crystal ball? Ah, I thought so... AND If they
were, then those before them you thought were your ancestors have no
connection with you.
FAMILY TREE DATA BASES ONLY IDENTIFY NAMES AND THOSE NAMES COULD BE FAKED
The data bases people use to track their ancestors do not declare anyone to be a descendant of the Israelites. If anything they declare their religion. Being a "Jew" is only a declaration of religion. Being a "Jew" proves nothing about your ancestors. Anyone can be a Jew, it is a matter of joining an organization.
FOLLOWING A RELIGION
HAS NOTHING WITH PROVING YOUR HEREDITY
Being a "Jew" no more makes you a descendant of the Israelites than being a Christian makes you an Egyptian, Syrian or Turk. Every original Christian was a native of the middle east. Following a religion does not make you a descendant of the natives of middle east.
CHANGING NAMES
The Elise Island documentary revealed how a
multitude of immigrants changed their names to "American"
sounding names on entry to the nation.
Through out the world people have changed their names to blend in, profit or
hide their past.
Family names can only reveal what people called themselves. There is no way
to know if they or their ancestors were a convert to "Judaism"
making them honorary Mouseketeers... "Jews".
ALL FAMILY TREE DATA BASES
#1 Have NO possible information about who was
adopted in Europe for the last 1800 years.
#2 They do not do DNA test and they could not
test you with the dead you think are your ancestors.
#3 They don't have a clue which ancestors converted to
what religions.
#4 They do NOT have any original hand written
documents from European ancestors.
#5 They do not have any actual documents from Europe and no
one has carbon dated, hand written documents from their ancestors for the
last 92 generations or 2,300 years.
No typed data base of family records are worth anything, unless it can lead
you to find the original hand written records.
TYPE WRITTEN RECORDS
People before the 1900's did not have type writers. Every
written document on census, taxes or shipping manifest is information the
typist gathered from those the data base mentions.
Those giving info to the typist did not have time machines. The
best thing they had was hearsay accounts from grandparents (who were not
alive 100 years before themselves)
Now that DNA and such exists... with records on everyone, future generations
will be able to trace their ancestors with some documented proof, but no
one on earth can prove their heritage of grandparents who lived before the
1900's.
... well you could dig up dead grandma, but
then you would have to dig up great grandma and
on and on until 300 BC. You
would have to do a DNA test on every grandmother and father, in every
generation until you found the dead in Israel (that existed before
Christ).
When you found that dead body, dug him up, did the DNA test, then you would
have to find his picture driver's license to know the dead body you dug up
was that of an Israelite.
Jewish family name BS
There is no such thing as a "Jewish" name. No Israelites had
the name of any of these Europeans calling themselves Jews. The names they
call Jewish existed in millions of Europeans who made no claims to be
"Jews".
The history channel had a series on family names. Family names were given
that made a statement about that person.
* Man with one ear cut off.
* Smith ... black smith
* Miller ... man who worked at a mill
* TinSmith, GoldSmith, SilverSmith ... man who worked at this trade.
* Man who lives on the north ridge, has 4 children and grows potatoes.
They stated the best set of records in Europe were those of the tax
collectors. The tax collectors would give people names
to identify them the next time they came around to collect.
Every name people call "Jewish" names were
the names of other Europeans.
Many times a family member or the person would make up names for them.
The Europeans were no different than the native Americans who gave
descriptive names to their children.
No native of the middle east, no bible Israelite had
any of these names. These "Jewish names" have nothing to do with
being "Jewish". They were names invented OR copied in
European by Europeans. Names were first words or a
sentence that identified something the person was involved in. Later
the names were shortened and the names of the fathers were given to the
children.
HAVING THE SAME NAME DOES NOT MAKE YOU RELATED
Having the same family name as anyone does not make
them your relatives. There were no Greens, Whites or Smiths in
Africa, but they were given European names.
The idea of a "Jewish name" is absurd. They were only Europeans
who joined a religion and the family names they had depended on the European
country they were in. Their names were out of the pot used by the rest of
the Europeans.
Giggle, we are told these Ethiopians are "Jews" but there were no
...berg, ...stine or ...man family names existing in Ethiopia. The names
they profess to be "Jewish names" is a crock of do do. They are
full of themselves.
THE CHAIN OF GRANDPARENTS
People into genealogies are quite silly. They take one grandparent and
try to trace their line, but we are not from one family, but we are a
composite of hundreds of families.
(Other than incest) your first set of grandparents (4) means you are a
composite of those 4 families, your great grandparents makes you the
descendant of 8 families. Everyone has 2 sets of parents. No one could begin
to track all their great grandparents. You are not the
descendant of one family, YOU ARE THE
DESCENDANT OF HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT FAMILIES !
TRACKING ONE OF HUNDREDS OF YOUR FAMILIES
If you took only one of your grandparents to a certain time
in history, you would have to verify EVERY
GRANDPARENT, IN EVERY GENERATION.
A generation is the time it takes some one to be
generated (born) and re-generate (give birth). In the past girls got
married very early. For this example I will use the easy round number 25
years old. ( by this time most girls would have had 3 children in the days
of the past).
a) Generation = 25 years.
The Israelites are recorded being scattered into Arab nations about 300 BC.
This is 2000 AD.
b) The time the Israelites were scattered until 2000
AD = 2300 years.
c) 2300 / 25 = 92 generations between now and when the
Israelites were running around Israel.
Remember you are not the descendant of any certain family but you are a
composite of hundreds of families.
If you were trying to trace just one of those families
to the Israelites, you would have to know the name of every one of those
ancestors for 92 generations AND you would have
to have physical evidence for every generation. Think of these
ancestors as links in a chain. If just one link can not be verified, the all
those after that broken link are invalid.
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As for the data bases used to track family ancestors, they are nothing more than a list of names. These are names people called themselves and only that.
Here is what you need to track your ancestors.
Generation 1 ... your parents
a) Would your grandparents have told them if they were adopted (in which they would not be your grandparent).
b) Have you done a DNA test to know your grandfathers are your grandfathers?
NEXT ALL PREVIOUS GENERATIONS YOU NOR YOUR GRANDPARENTS EVER SAW.
I see lots of programs on TV and parents who adopt children do not want them to know they were adopted. A slip of a relatives tongue or finding papers in the attic.. is how many find out.
c) Has any of your grandparents for the first 90 generations been adopted?
d) How would you know if they were or not?
e) Do you have hand written and carbon dated documents of every generation of your ancestors for the last 2,000 years to verify your claims?
f) Do you have the DNA of every ancestor for the last 2000 years?
g) Do you know that none of your ancestors ever changed their names in the last 2000 years and how do you know?
Let's say you could track every ancestor back to 750 AD (50 generations) and there was no record before that, that is the break in your chain and because there is no way for you to prove who the 51st set of your great grandparents were, not one of the 50 you think are "Jews" have a leg to stand on.
If the last ancestor you could trace (50 generations ago) lived in a town in Spain and you don't have any evidence of the identity of the 51st set of grandparents, what are you going to do when the town had 10 or 100 families with that same name?
No typed data base, tax records, censor records of ship manifest addresses any of these questions. None of these data bases have any evidence about these questions. The ONLY thing these family tree data bases have is a list of names of what people called themselves.
QUESTIONS FOR EVERY SET OF GRANDPARENTS YOU CLAIM TO HAVE HAD:
Did they have a name change? Did
they or their ancestors convert to Judaism? Do
you have a hand written document from that generation which is carbon dated?
How do you know if they were adopted or not? Do
you have any DNA proof?
This set of questions apply to every link in the chain... every generation
for the last 2,300 years. How many of these questions can you reply to and
what other than your mouth is your evidence?
It is not enough to have evidence of one or a couple of your ancestors,
in order to establish your identity, you must have documentation of every
ancestor in that family line, in every generation.
If just one link is broken, your only connection you
have to previous generations is in your own wishful thinking.
IF YOU CAN NOT VERIFY EVERY LINK IN YOUR FAMILY TREE FROM NOW BACK TO 300
YEARS BC, YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT HOT AIR. The typed information in those data
bases is just something the typist was given to type up. The data bases have
nothing more than what the typist typed in and nothing they typed was copied
from physical evidence.
No data base reveals: Did they have a name change?
Did they or their ancestors convert to Judaism?
Do you have a hand written document from that
generation which is carbon dated? How do you
know if they were adopted or not? Do you have
any DNA proof? ... and no one on earth has the replies to these
questions. Those who claim to be descendants of any ancient people do so
because of ignorance or lies.
FAMILY TREES / SHARED HERITAGE
After I established the fact that no one could possibly trace their heritage to the Israelites a guy said: "G-d knows our heritage"
When using the word "our" his assertion was he was an Israelite descendant. Of course God knows the heritage of all people, but it was this man (not God) who was doing the talking... that is unless these people calling themselves Jews, think they are God. I guess some of us will have to read the bible to see what God says.
If couples only had one child, humans would have ceased to have existed thousands of years ago. In this story we will say Arnold and Edna were both born in 1700. Their offspring's then reproduced every 25 years.
The blue represents their sons and grandsons. They had to get the girls / pink from other parents.
In 4 generations Arnold and Edna produced, 30 descendants ( 2 + 4 + 8 + 26 ) total of those 4 generations that followed.
From the time Susie Bell was born in 1800 until Arnold and Edna was born in 1700, Susie had 32 grand parents. Arnold and Edna are just one set of her grand parents. In just 9 generations we have all had 1024 grandparents.
To know what our heritage is, we have to be able to track everyone of our grand parents and see what people they came from.
People who play the family tree game just go to one set of their grandparents, but this is quite the farce. We are the total product of every one of our grand parents.
In the year 1500 AD we all had thousands of grandparents in that generation. The idea that anyone can track their heritage is quite the farce.
Until the mid 1900s there was no birth control pills. There was no women's lib. Couples created very big families, but if it were ONLY an average of 3 kids per couple.
Arnold and Edna are represented by the single pink/blue block. To make it easy let's say they just had sons (blue) sons and grandsons. All the blue in the blocks that follow are their sons and grandsons.
In just 3 generations, they would have produced 24 grandsons. These grandsons are not the exclusive product of themselves, but they share them with many other grandparents.
In that 3rd generation each grandson would have had 24 cousins. In history girls married very young. They had 5 to 8 kids by the time they were 25, but lets say the average children for mothers was 3 children by the age 25. How many grand parents will a child born in 2000 AD have?
2000 / 25 average = 80 generations to the calendar date based on the death of Christ. The number of grandparents in 80 generations is too big to even think about so let's go back 23 generations
2 -> 1925 - 8
3 -> 1900 - 16
4 -> 1875 - 32
5 -> 1850 - 64
6 -> 1825 - 128
7 -> 1800 - 256
8 -> 1775 - 512
9 -> 1750 - 1024
10 -> 1725 - 2048
11 -> 1700 - 4096
12 -> 1675 - 8192
13 -> 1650 - 16384
14 -> 1625 - 32768
15 -> 1600 - 65536
16 -> 1575 - 131072
17 -> 1550 - 262144
18 -> 1525 - 524288
19 -> 1500 - 1048576
20 -> 1475 - 2097152
21 -> 1450 - 4194304
22 -> 1425 - 8388608
With the average of parents producing their children every 25 generations, a kid born in the year 2000 will have had 8,388,608 grand parents in the year 1425 AD. Remember these are not their exclusive grandparents, but grand parents they share with millions of others.
When anyone asserts they can track their heritage back 2,000 years know they are ignorant, idiots or liars.
YOUR DOCUMENTATION OF YOUR HERITAGE
So your grand parents have Torah's or bibles with your family records in them?
#1 You could not trace your ancestors through your grandfather because there is no way to know how many of your grandma's were fooling around.
#2 Let's say you could trace your grandmother 10 generations back to about 1725 ... the last grandma in your link. Now to say any of the grandparents in those links were descendants of the Israelites you would have to know if grandma was a Jew by heritage or if she was just goy a convert in which none of your grandparents were descendants of the Israelites.
#3 If you could trace grandma back to 1725 AD, then there would be about 24 other grandma's between her and the time before the Israelites were scattered. Because it is impossible to find out who they were, there could be no way of knowing that the your present grandma or all those before her were descendants of the Israelites or just goy converts.
Tracing your family tree is like a chain. Unless you can verify ever link in that chain back to the very beginning, it is impossible to know where you came from. When you make a claim of some fact when you have no fact, you are a fibber, a liar, a Lemmings ... chose your own word.
Tan Books and Publishers, 1987).] Rev. Dr. L. Rumble, and Fr. Charles Carty [Charles M. Carty and L. Rumble, Bible Quizzes to a Street Preacher (Rockford, IL.: Tan Books and Publishers, 1976).] state that most people in the Middle Ages could not read, so there was no need for the Bible in the language of the common man because he could not read it if he had it. They further state that since those who could read all read Latin, there was no need to have any other translation other than the Latin Vulgate by Jerome.
No the "Jews" never had Torah's. Only royal families and very wealthy religious organizations had any kind of books. Every book written was hand copied. The "Jews" did not invent the printing press nor did they have access to any printing press when they were concocting their Talmud.
Just like "Jews" the Catholic religious leaders had the only written versions of their scriptures. They did not share these with these scriptures with the common people. Just like today, they need the people to come to them to find out what their books says, to control the cash flow.
The idea of anyone asserting they have actual documents proving their heritage back 2,500 years is an insult to an idiot. In the middle ages ( except for royals and wealthy religious organizations ) the people of the middle ages could not read nor write. The closest thing they got to ink was when they went berry picking. The closest thing they got to a quill was when they were plucking the chickens to cook and the closest they ever got to paper could only have been the corn cobs they used in the out house.
Not 1% of the population could read nor did 1% of the total population ever go to a school or even pass one in their life time. If any one actually had a document of any kind that could be verified from the year 1500 as something written by their ancestors, it would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and yet we have idiots and/or liars professing they have some kind of evidence that their ancestors were Israelites.
THE PRINTING PRESS
Johannes Gutenberg began building his press in 1436, and produced the first print that did not need to be hand copied. He was German, his press wooden that used the first form of movable type.
After the printing press was invented, only the rich could afford books. Though they could not read, there were those who owned books as a means of status. NO idiots you do not have any Torah's or Bibles dating back 2,500 years when the Israelites were scattered. The only thing you had until you read this was your belief based on what your daddy told you and he told you about his hearsay beliefs that were based on nothing but the blabbering of lips.
Your proof that you are a descendant of the Israelites has the same validity that Santa will slide down the chimney on Dec 25. It is the belief of a trusting child of their parents. It is a cycle of hearsay repeated over and over. The only difference in people believing they are descendants of the Israelites then believing in the tooth fairy is before they grow up, the cat is out of the bag but both parents and children who claim to be descendants of the Israelites never grow up. In spite of the facts that prove them to be deceived, they want to be something special so bad, they will fart in the face of the facts before them.
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE / BRAIN WASHED
When someone is conditioned to believe a lie, most will never be deprogrammed. Those who bring the evidence of the farce are not thanked for stopping them from remaining fools, instead they lash back in out rage... put them on ignore, put your head in sand, don't confuse me with the facts.
(1) Every Israelite of the bible was a composite of Hittites, Havites, Syrians, Iraqis, Midiantes, Moabites, Jebusites, Canaanites, Egyptians, Philistines, Jebusites ... Arabs and you have the physical appearance of any other European?
(2) In just 22 generations you have had 8,388,608 grand parents Ok tell us what the names of all of your grandparents was just 22 generations ( let alone 80 generations) ago.
(3) Now give us the priceless age dated documents you have for every generation of all your ancestors back 2,500 years ago.
Other than the flapping of your own lips and the flapping lips of grandpa, what do you have other than the wind of your own blabbering lips?
You do not have any such proof at all? You don't need any proof? Of course you do not have or need any proof. Contrary to the facts that prove your farce, the brainwashed can only ignore the facts and lash out at those who present the damning evidence that prove their farce.
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How long did the 'Jews' remain in captivity
Ezra 3:10 After the return from captivity.. the builders rebuilt the foundation of the temple
Ezra 3:12 Many of the priests, Levites and leaders, who were old men, had seen the first house, when the foundation of this house was laid and wept...
How long were they in captivity? Some of the men who saw the first temple built, cried when they saw the foundation being rebuilt .. How long in captivity, with in the life time of these old men.
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Nehemiah and Ezra is information about the 'Jews' who returned from captivity.
What happened in that trivial amount of time (one lifetime) while they were living outside of Israel?
Nehemiah 13:23 There were Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab:
Nehemiah 13:24 And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews' language, but according to the language of each people.
In the life less than one life time in captivity the children of the Israelites began to be assimilated into the other cultures where they were.
538 BC
Ezra 2:59 And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:
In the life less than one life time these 'Jews' lost track of their family trees
Nehemiah 7:61 And these were they which went up also from Telmelah, Telharesha, cherub, Addon, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, nor their seed, whether they were of Israel.
In the life less than one life time these 'Jews' lost track of their family trees .
Not even the priest could trace their ancestors !
Ezra 2:61 And of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name:
Ezra 2:62 These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.
In the life less than one life time these priest lost track of their family trees
Over 2,500 years ago.. after less than one generation living in another country, the actual Israelites had no records of their genealogy.. and now after 2,500 years, people who have lived in dozens of countries and lived through the dark ages in Europe claim they have the family tree records of 110 generations.. give me a break !
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If you believe the bible is the truth, then look at these scriptural references than open your own bible and verify them. The Israelites of the bible were NOTHING other than a composite of Arabs. The Israelites were scattered into the middle east countries about 500 BC and in the prophecy it is these middle east nations the Israelites will be gathered from. Not even the actual descendants of the Israelites living in the middle east nations can track their ancestors.
When Europeans call themselves Jews, it is their assertion they are descendants of the Israelites. It is impossible for any one to track their ancestors and such assertions are but wishful thinking or blatant lies.
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Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH)
The standard genetic signature of the Jewish priestly family.
Y-chromosome, which is passed virtually unchanged from father to son.
Debunked here in the archives.. with all the questions these 'professors' can not, will not respond to http://jewgenetics.blogspot.com/
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